Innovating Leadership:
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Transformational Leadership & Ethics
Episode Description
Ron Riggio tackles a foundational question: are great leaders born or forged? Drawing on the four-decade Fullerton Longitudinal Study, he identifies childhood characteristics that predict later leadership capability, showing how early developmental factors shape adult capacity. He connects those findings to transformational leadership theory and, crucially, to the ethics that should underpin it, making the case that developing leaders and developing ethical leaders are inseparable pursuits.
Key Takeaways
- The born-or-forged question is best answered with evidence, not assumption.
- The Fullerton Longitudinal Study links specific childhood characteristics to later leadership capability.
- Early developmental factors meaningfully shape adult leadership capacity.
- Transformational leadership and ethics are deeply intertwined, not separate concerns.
- Understanding developmental roots helps organizations cultivate leaders more intentionally.
Why This Episode Matters
Executives come away with research-grounded insight into how leaders develop and why ethics must be woven into transformational leadership from the start.
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Episode Content:
Are great leaders born, or forged?
Ron Riggio followed up on the four-decade-long Fullerton Longitudinal Study to uncover the childhood characteristics that indicated later leadership qualities. Those results further informed his work on transformational leadership. He discusses his findings with host Maureen Metcalf…as well as the interplay between transformational leadership and ethics.
Produced in partnership with the International Leadership Association: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org.
Other episodes you’ll enjoy:
- Becoming a Better Leader: Daily Leadership Development with Ron Riggio
- Do No Harm: Ethics for Leaders with Terri O’Fallon
- Ethics & Problem-Solving: Leadership Theory & Practice with Joanne Ciulla and Keith Grint
Resources:
Ron has many books on leadership. For more on this episode’s topic, read Transformational Leadership (Print = https://amzn.to/489QvV6, Kindle = https://amzn.to/3uv9gVg). He also writes about the latest topics in his Psychology Today blog, Cutting Edge Leadership, at https://www.psychologytoday.com/za/blog/cutting-edge-leadership.
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Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
- Everyday Ubuntu: Living Better Together, the African Way by Mungi Ngomane. Hardback (https://amzn.to/48Doh6j) and audiobook (https://amzn.to/48YCRF4)
- Nerve: Lessons on Leadership from Two Women Who Went First by Martha Piper & Indira Samarasekera. Paperback (https://amzn.to/3tOtzg4) and audiobook (https://amzn.to/41OYdT5)
- Jilly Truit murder mysteries by Beverley McLachlin:
- Full Disclosure – https://amzn.to/46TxW6Q (paperback) https://amzn.to/46VDL3Q (audiobook)
- Denial – https://amzn.to/46YCbhs (paperback) https://amzn.to/3GJc0AA (audiobook)
- Women and Leadership: Journey Toward Equity by Sherylle J. Tan & Lisa DeFrank-Cole
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
Other episodes you’ll enjoy
- Agape Capitalism: Can Ethics & Profit Coexist in Business? with Jim Grote and Tom Grote
- Do No Harm: Ethics for Leaders with Terri O’Fallon
- To Be Honest: Lead with the Power of Truth, Justice, & Purpose with Ron Carucci
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Guest(s) Bio:
Ronald E. Riggio, Ph.D., is the Henry R. Kravis Professor of Leadership and Organizational Psychology at Claremont McKenna College. He is the author of more than a dozen books and more than 100 research articles and book chapters in the areas of leadership, organizational psychology, and social psychology. Ron is the former Director of the Kravis Leadership Institute at Claremont McKenna College. He has served on the board of numerous journals and writes the Cutting-Edge Leadership blog at Psychology Today. At the 2020 International Leadership Association’s annual conference, Ron was one of two people awarded the Lifetime Achievement Award.
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