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Humbitious: How to Be Ambitious without the Ego – With Amer Kaissi
Episode Description

Amer Kaissi coins the term “humbitious” to capture what he sees as the ideal blend of high drive and low ego. Far from treating humility and ambition as opposites, he argues the best leaders pursue meaningful goals while staying grounded and endlessly teachable. He frames humility through three dimensions, honest self-understanding, relational awareness that lets a leader say “I don’t know” and truly listen, and a sense of transcendence that keeps arrogance in check without dulling accountability.

Key Takeaways
  • Humility and ambition are not opposites; the best leaders pair high drive with low ego.
  • Genuine self-understanding means recognizing both your talents and your real limitations.
  • Teachability, including the willingness to admit “I don’t know,” lets leaders listen and learn from others.
  • Seeking out contradictory viewpoints strengthens decisions and values others’ contributions.
  • A sense of transcendence guards against arrogance while preserving drive and accountability.
Why This Episode Matters

Executives come away with a practical model for staying ambitious and accountable while remaining humble, teachable, and genuinely open to others.

Featuring

Amer Kaissi, Author and Professor at Trinity University

Episode Topics

Podcast Air Date

July 26, 2022

Episode Duration

55min

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Season 8
Episode Number 27

Episode Content:

Humbitious: The Power of Low-Ego, High-Drive Leadership

Amer Kaissi, a professional speaker and certified executive coach, shares content from his most recent book, from which this article is taken, “Humbitious: The Power of low-ego, high-drive Leadership.” in this article and his podcast, Humbitious: How to be Ambitious Without the Ego. 

Based on the extensive research published in the last 10 years, humility in leadership can be thought of in terms of three main building blocks:

  • how you understand yourself (self-awareness, self-reflection, and vulnerability);
  • how you understand your relationships with others (open-mindedness, appreciation of others, and generosity); and
  • how you understand your place in the universe (transcendence).

The first block: How you understand yourself

Humility is first and foremost about having an accurate view of yourself. Although some people—and even some dictionaries— view humility as synonymous with low self-esteem, psychology and leadership experts describe humility as understanding one’s talents and accomplishments while accepting one’s imperfections and shortcomings.

When you have a talent or special skill and you don’t acknowledge it, you are not displaying humility. Rather, you are engaging in self-disparagement and possibly ingratitude. As a humble, smart leader, you should recognize that you are smart but you should also know that you are not smarter than everyone else—or smarter than the collective intelligence of the group that you lead. You can appreciate that you have expertise in strategy, for example, but you should also acknowledge that you don’t know everything about the subject and that you still have a lot to learn.

The second block: How you understand your relationships with others

Once you are aware of your personal limitations, you can be open to new ideas and ways of thinking, and you become willing to learn from others. The clever organizational theorist Karl Weick perfectly captured this when he encouraged leaders to admit the shortcomings of their knowledge: “When a leader is able to humbly admit ‘I don’t know,’ that admission forces the leader to drop the pretense, drop omniscience, drop expert authority, drop a macho posture, and drop monologues . . . listening and exploring is the consequence.”

You then ask for advice, you seek and listen to honest feedback from others, and you even solicit contradictory views. Brad Owens, professor of business ethics at Brigham Young University and one of the leading researchers in the field of humble leadership, describes this quality as “teachability”: the willingness to admit ignorance, appreciate others’ contributions, and learn from them. Teachability entails having an open mind, a curiosity towards others, and an interest in understanding them and their views.

The third block: How you understand your place in the universe

As a humble leader, you aren’t just aware that you need others’ help and ideas; you are also aware of your insignificance in the universe. You may have worked incessantly with your team to develop a new product line that will significantly increase revenue for your organization for years to come, but in the grand scheme of things, your impact is insignificant, and you need to be aware of that.

This nothingness can be appreciated in terms of how powerful God is or how large the universe is, but it can also be realized by simply observing nature or contemplating history. Arrogance can sometimes make you feel like you are the center of the universe, but when you realize how connected everything is and how small and insignificant you are, you can truly develop your humility—and, in so doing, perhaps paradoxically, you become a fuller person.

Please note, though, that transcendence is not a call for surrender, laziness, or relinquishing action. It is about understanding your small role but still doing it to the best of your abilities in a humble and ambitious way. You may not matter much in the grand scheme of things, but you have an important role to play in your small corner of the universe.

Resources:

– Amer’s new book, Humbitious, is available here.

– His earlier book, Intangibles: The Unexpected Traits of High-Performing Healthcare Leaders, is here.

– And his specialty tome, Flipping Health Care through Retail Clinics and Convenient Care Models, is here.

Amer’s website is http://www.AmerKaissi.com.

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Guest(s):

Amer Kaissi, Author and Professor at Trinity University

Guest(s) Bio:

Amer Kaissi is an award-winning professor of health-care administration at Trinity University, a Top-15 program. His previous book, Intangibles: The Unexpected Traits of High-Performing Healthcare Leaders, won the 2019 American College of Healthcare Executives (ACHE) Book of the Year Award. He is a national speaker with Huron/Studer Group and a faculty member with ACHE, the University of Colorado Denver, and Boston College. Kaissi is the director of the Executive Program at Trinity University, where he teaches courses in leadership, professional development, and public speaking. Kaissi works with MEDI—a division of Navvis—and with the Leadership Development (TLD) Group as an executive coach, and consults with hospitals and other organizations in their strategic planning efforts. Kaissi is also a certified executive and physician coach. He lives in San Antonio,

Texas, with his wife and their two teenagers. Learn more at http://www.amerkaissi.com.

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