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Power, Charisma, Hormones: Science Studies Leadership
Episode Description
John Antonakis brings hard science to a quality often dismissed as innate: charisma. He points to research showing that workers who hear a charismatic speech increase output by about 17 percent over those given a standard one, and that charismatic framing can lift contributions to public goods by up to 19 percent. Using Presidents Zelensky and Putin as a timely case study, he demonstrates how nine specific, learnable charismatic tactics, from moral conviction to symbolic action, measurably shape motivation and collective effort.
Key Takeaways
- Research shows a charismatic speech can raise worker output by roughly 17 percent over a standard one.
- Charismatic framing can increase contributions to public goods by as much as 19 percent.
- Charisma rests on nine specific, learnable tactics rather than innate personality alone.
- A leader’s words, delivery, and symbolic actions serve as powerful social cohesion mechanisms.
- Symbolic acts, like Zelensky dressing as a soldier, close status gaps and model emulation-worthy leadership.
Why This Episode Matters
Executives come away understanding that charisma is a measurable, teachable set of tactics that can meaningfully boost motivation and performance.
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Who is More Charismatic—Putin or Zelensky? Does It Matter?
Maureen Metcalf wrote this article summarizing research from John Antonakis, Professor of Organizational Behavior and editor-in-chief of The Leadership Quarterly. This article is a companion to the podcast The Importance of Studying Leadership Scientifically as part of the International Leadership Association’s interview series from the Annual ILA Conference in Geneva, Switzerland, in October 2021.
Leadership researchers have debated the impact of charisma on leadership effectiveness. What leaders say and how they say it can have a strong motivational effect and help coordinate followers’ actions. It impacts their belief about what others will do, helping align people when taking on a costly and challenging set of activities, such as what we see as we watch the Ukrainians defend their country. Leadership is the social glue that helps pull and hold a group together as people strain to accomplish a challenging goal. Leaders also serve as role models. They signal what actions are appropriate. Additionally, leaders’ symbolic actions can serve as rallying cries for others – direct followers and stakeholders.
To illustrate charisma using, we look at the Russian invasion of Ukraine and evaluate the impact the charisma of these world leaders is likely to have on the war.
Before analyzing Presidents Zelensky and Putin, we want to ground the conversation in some data, according to a paper published in December 2021 in Management Science, “Just Words? Just Speeches?” In the Economic Value of Charismatic Leadership by John Antonakis, Giovanna d’Adda, Roberto A. Weber, and Christian Zehnder, “In the field experiment, we find that workers who are given a charismatic speech increase their output by about 17% relative to workers who listen to a standard speech. This effect is statistically significant and comparable in size to the positive effect of high-powered financial incentives. We then investigate the effect of charisma in a series of laboratory experiments in which subjects are exposed to motivational speeches before playing a repeated public goods game. Our results reveal that more charismatic elements in the speech can increase public good contributions by up to 19%. However, we also find that the effectiveness of charisma varies and appears to depend on the social context in which the speech is delivered.”
With this research as the foundation for our blog, we explore Professor John Antonakis’ evaluation of Presidents Zelensky and Putin. John evaluated both leaders’ charism by considering the words they used in recent speeches and their behavior and visual images during the speeches. President Zelensky scored as a significantly more charismatic leader when looking at the language he selected.

To evaluate charisma in further detail, John looked at the nine charismatic leadership tactics he uses to compare the two leaders. The chart below reflects the collective difference between the two leaders.

| In Antonakis’ analysis, Zelensky scored higher in these seven categories: | While Putin scored higher in these two categories: |
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This analysis tells us that President Zelensky will have more success motivating his troops and gaining support from International Leaders than will President Putin. To add to the analysis, Zelensky is also better at engaging in symbolic acts that close the status gap between himself, his soldiers, and his citizens. He dresses and acts like a regular soldier and eats with his troops. He isn’t using props and technology. We often see Putin distanced from his soldiers and people.
Zelensky is a better role model and a symbol of emulation – giving an edge to the Ukrainians when looking through the lens of leadership and charisma. Leadership works not only in motivating followers. It also helps motivate stakeholders to take action that will help bring a collective together, such as the European Union, to reach a collective goal of winning the war against Russia. Both of these leaders are role models that set the tone for others.
Because Zelensky is such a charismatic leader, his skills will help steel the hearts of the Ukrainians. They have a cause to fight for, their country and homes, and a collective identity to defend. While the Ukrainians have more to lose in this war, the leadership of President Zelensky provides additional motivation and collective identity, and President Putin provides the Russian troops and other countries he is trying to unite around his cause.
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Learn more about John’s research at http://www.hec.unil.ch/people/jantonakis.
We have a short (1:21) excerpt from this interview on YouTube at https://youtu.be/CaALP3jTo4s.
Information on John’s book, The Nature of Leadership, is at https://amzn.to/3Xdm7UH. He also contributed to Being There Even When You Are Not (Vol. 4), available at https://amzn.to/3ik8Rir.
Host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can follow her there at https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenmetcalf.
She’s also written several award-winning books on leadership development. You can peruse and purchase them here: https://amzn.to/3C4eSX0.
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Guest(s) Bio:
John Antonakis is Professor of Organizational Behavior and editor-in-chief of The Leadership Quarterly, a high-impact journal in management and applied psychology. John’s research focuses on estimating the causal effect of leadership on outcomes. He is a highly-cited scientist, and has published groundbreaking research in journals such as Science. His work has been covered by media outlets including the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, The Guardian, NEWSWEEK, the Daily Mail, BBC News, Forbes, The New Yorker, Business Insider, Fast Company and hundreds of other news sources.
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